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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.unpleasant.org/2005/12/03/victor-lundberg-an-open-letter/comment-page-2/#comment-46113</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole VL section has really turned out to be a very interesting since I first discovered it 4 or 5 years ago.

But it&#039;s got me think this.

Is it just me or does it seem like there&#039;s just too many famous people who seem to wind up having so much trouble?

I don&#039;t neccesarly put famous people on pedestals but always something when one like Lundberg who probably seemed like a well off person to those who idolized him, and as we see hearing from family mebmers here, he was far from that.


So odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole VL section has really turned out to be a very interesting since I first discovered it 4 or 5 years ago.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s got me think this.</p>
<p>Is it just me or does it seem like there&#8217;s just too many famous people who seem to wind up having so much trouble?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t neccesarly put famous people on pedestals but always something when one like Lundberg who probably seemed like a well off person to those who idolized him, and as we see hearing from family mebmers here, he was far from that.</p>
<p>So odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Terri Lundberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri Lundberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 06:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Sorry you haven&#039;t checked back with this blog of sorts.  Sister and I were contemplating coming to MI this Spring but then got news that Alma (maternal uncle&#039;s surviving wife who lived in MI) recently died.  As part of the motivation to journey that direction had to do with seeing Alma, we thought rather that we would head to S.F. where there is also much family from mom&#039;s side.  

We are committed though to making MI next year.  Sister will be calling your folks and making the arrangements for 2011.  We have many relatives there from both sides of the family...cousins exclusively I think now.

Anyway, it would be nice to meet with you.  Sister indicated that you are, perhaps, a wildlife/hunting guide, working from Montana to Michigan.  Sounds good to us if you are available without schedule conflicts.  

I and my partner don&#039;t presently hunt but are enthusiastic about guns and shoot when time allows.  Cattle, however, occupy more time than we would prefer so leisure activities are back-burnered.

Here&#039;s hoping that your life is full of health and happiness. 

Ciao for now,

Terri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Sorry you haven&#8217;t checked back with this blog of sorts.  Sister and I were contemplating coming to MI this Spring but then got news that Alma (maternal uncle&#8217;s surviving wife who lived in MI) recently died.  As part of the motivation to journey that direction had to do with seeing Alma, we thought rather that we would head to S.F. where there is also much family from mom&#8217;s side.  </p>
<p>We are committed though to making MI next year.  Sister will be calling your folks and making the arrangements for 2011.  We have many relatives there from both sides of the family&#8230;cousins exclusively I think now.</p>
<p>Anyway, it would be nice to meet with you.  Sister indicated that you are, perhaps, a wildlife/hunting guide, working from Montana to Michigan.  Sounds good to us if you are available without schedule conflicts.  </p>
<p>I and my partner don&#8217;t presently hunt but are enthusiastic about guns and shoot when time allows.  Cattle, however, occupy more time than we would prefer so leisure activities are back-burnered.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping that your life is full of health and happiness. </p>
<p>Ciao for now,</p>
<p>Terri</p>
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		<title>By: Terri Lundberg</title>
		<link>http://www.unpleasant.org/2005/12/03/victor-lundberg-an-open-letter/comment-page-2/#comment-43372</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri Lundberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tamii,

I&#039;m sure your father will remember that my sister&#039;s name is Tami...not a nickname...just Tami.  However, she has simply been &quot;sister&quot; for more years than I can remember and I probably don&#039;t speak her given name but once every few years.  

It&#039;s been such a long time since I&#039;ve seen anyone in your family.  Frankly, I&#039;m not even certain that the names are logged correctly in my memory.  It seems that Kate and Ed&#039;s children were Arlene, Karen, David, Ed, and Tom.  That&#039;s digging through the cobwebs though so please accept my apology if I have mis-stated names.  

I also seem to recall that Arlene loved to sew and, as a teenager, ran the machine needle through her finger.  There is also a lingering memory of Kate and Ed having an indoor grill and nervous chihuahuas.  

My brother may have had a bit of a crush on one of the gals.  I distincly recall all of them singing and dancing to Elvis.  Another lifetime so many years past.

Here&#039;s hoping your dad knows of Ted.  He left CA for Michigan in 1955.  If he ever made trips back to CA we were not aware.  There may have been family reunions though that could have brought him back.  

Ciao for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tamii,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure your father will remember that my sister&#8217;s name is Tami&#8230;not a nickname&#8230;just Tami.  However, she has simply been &#8220;sister&#8221; for more years than I can remember and I probably don&#8217;t speak her given name but once every few years.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s been such a long time since I&#8217;ve seen anyone in your family.  Frankly, I&#8217;m not even certain that the names are logged correctly in my memory.  It seems that Kate and Ed&#8217;s children were Arlene, Karen, David, Ed, and Tom.  That&#8217;s digging through the cobwebs though so please accept my apology if I have mis-stated names.  </p>
<p>I also seem to recall that Arlene loved to sew and, as a teenager, ran the machine needle through her finger.  There is also a lingering memory of Kate and Ed having an indoor grill and nervous chihuahuas.  </p>
<p>My brother may have had a bit of a crush on one of the gals.  I distincly recall all of them singing and dancing to Elvis.  Another lifetime so many years past.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping your dad knows of Ted.  He left CA for Michigan in 1955.  If he ever made trips back to CA we were not aware.  There may have been family reunions though that could have brought him back.  </p>
<p>Ciao for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Tamii</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Terri,
I will talk to my Dad to see if he remembers Ted and his Family and if he has any info for you.  Take care!

Tamii</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Terri,<br />
I will talk to my Dad to see if he remembers Ted and his Family and if he has any info for you.  Take care!</p>
<p>Tamii</p>
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		<title>By: Terri Lundberg</title>
		<link>http://www.unpleasant.org/2005/12/03/victor-lundberg-an-open-letter/comment-page-2/#comment-43050</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri Lundberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 06:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this intereting!  Three Lundberg family members posting comments on the same site.  A nephew and second cousin and we are each estranged from one another.  Hey to you Tamii and I am aware of the many of us out there who are related to one another.  Thank you for taking time to post.  Do you know the names and/or whereabouts of Ted&#039;s 2 children or his wife?  I would love to tell them how remarkable their father/husband was and how very much he was loved by others in this family.  He and Vic were not on great terms when Ted passed.  Not that that matters.  It would be nice to see Ted in his children and hear their memories of him.  David certainly sounds like a warm and thoughtful man.  I hope he checks back in sometime.

Regards,

Terri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this intereting!  Three Lundberg family members posting comments on the same site.  A nephew and second cousin and we are each estranged from one another.  Hey to you Tamii and I am aware of the many of us out there who are related to one another.  Thank you for taking time to post.  Do you know the names and/or whereabouts of Ted&#8217;s 2 children or his wife?  I would love to tell them how remarkable their father/husband was and how very much he was loved by others in this family.  He and Vic were not on great terms when Ted passed.  Not that that matters.  It would be nice to see Ted in his children and hear their memories of him.  David certainly sounds like a warm and thoughtful man.  I hope he checks back in sometime.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Terri</p>
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		<title>By: toestand</title>
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		<dc:creator>toestand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Victor Lundberg - An Open Letter - at mediafire:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=50303f3a2026a2945a3d773badf214303088787c2f1cfd4c61390143435ec59c</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Victor Lundberg &#8211; An Open Letter &#8211; at mediafire:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=50303f3a2026a2945a3d773badf214303088787c2f1cfd4c61390143435ec59c" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=50303f3a2026a2945a3d773badf214303088787c2f1cfd4c61390143435ec59c</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tamera Lundberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamera Lundberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terri,

I&#039;m one of the grand-kids of Ed &amp; Kate Lundberg.  I met Victor once, when he was in California visiting my family.  I heard his record also....just wanted to let you know you have more family out here!!

Tamii</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terri,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the grand-kids of Ed &amp; Kate Lundberg.  I met Victor once, when he was in California visiting my family.  I heard his record also&#8230;.just wanted to let you know you have more family out here!!</p>
<p>Tamii</p>
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		<title>By: Terri Lundberg</title>
		<link>http://www.unpleasant.org/2005/12/03/victor-lundberg-an-open-letter/comment-page-1/#comment-42082</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri Lundberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also for David...

I&#039;m reticent to leave contact info on a public site.  Perhaps you might be interested in speaking with the fellow who is claiming to do a biography piece but I am not.  All that he could report is the PR crafted to create an image for that time.  It seems quite evident to me that the meat will be missing.  

Neither sister nor I live in Oregon.  Vic and Kaye did for a relatively short period before Vic&#039;s death.  I&#039;ll give thought to how we might be able to speak with one another.  If you do continue to visit this site let me know.  

It is unlikely that your dad has spoken of me.  We haven&#039;t met.  Sister visited Vic often and met your dad and mom in Arizona, I think.  I&#039;ve tended away from relationships with Vic&#039;s side of the family as, in my opinion, they literally deserted my mother and us when we needed the support of family.  

As youngsters we spent memorable times with Harold, Marie and their kids.  Sister still speaks with Candace.  We also spent wonderful times with Ed, Kate and their kids.  Prior to leaving MI in 1953, Gladys, Bob and their 2 boys were our constant companions.  As I said earlier, I adored Ted, who was really the man/brother who came to the aid of our mom.    I guess divorce meant a divorce from the entire extended family.  Anyway, that&#039;s how I have always viewed it to be.

But, I blather on.  Again, let me know if you do still go to this site.  Weird really that I checked on it after such a long time.

Ciao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also for David&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reticent to leave contact info on a public site.  Perhaps you might be interested in speaking with the fellow who is claiming to do a biography piece but I am not.  All that he could report is the PR crafted to create an image for that time.  It seems quite evident to me that the meat will be missing.  </p>
<p>Neither sister nor I live in Oregon.  Vic and Kaye did for a relatively short period before Vic&#8217;s death.  I&#8217;ll give thought to how we might be able to speak with one another.  If you do continue to visit this site let me know.  </p>
<p>It is unlikely that your dad has spoken of me.  We haven&#8217;t met.  Sister visited Vic often and met your dad and mom in Arizona, I think.  I&#8217;ve tended away from relationships with Vic&#8217;s side of the family as, in my opinion, they literally deserted my mother and us when we needed the support of family.  </p>
<p>As youngsters we spent memorable times with Harold, Marie and their kids.  Sister still speaks with Candace.  We also spent wonderful times with Ed, Kate and their kids.  Prior to leaving MI in 1953, Gladys, Bob and their 2 boys were our constant companions.  As I said earlier, I adored Ted, who was really the man/brother who came to the aid of our mom.    I guess divorce meant a divorce from the entire extended family.  Anyway, that&#8217;s how I have always viewed it to be.</p>
<p>But, I blather on.  Again, let me know if you do still go to this site.  Weird really that I checked on it after such a long time.</p>
<p>Ciao</p>
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		<title>By: Terri Lundberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri Lundberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 08:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David,

Please know that I believe your father knew little of his father&#039;s past.  He and your mom lived for some time with Vic Jr. and Kaye in Arizona.  However, I doubt that the younger Vic would have shared the conflicts of the past.  Certainly your grandmother, Barbara, would neither have chosen to share such details given her involvement.  

It&#039;s gratifying to know that you have a fun and loving parent of whom you are proud and with whom you enjoy spending time.  Perhaps your true legacy is that the chain broke with your father.

In truth, your great grandfather, also known as Victor E. Lundberg, was an alcoholic...of the street variety.  This was the reason your great grandma bo didn&#039;t stay with him.  Gawd knows how this may have affected your grandfather.  

Which isn&#039;t to say that he gets a free pass for bad behavior.  Nature ~ Nurture?  In the end who really cares?  Integrity, dignity, caring, compassion, consideration, strength of character and loving without condition are choices.  

Intuitively or, if we allow ourselves to be guided by our intuition and soul, we do all know what it means to be an honorable person in every relationship gifted to us.  We can choose to litter our paths with human debris or we chose to take the higher road, striving always to create a warm and safe place for the people that we love as partners, companions and friends, for the children that we create of our seed, or for the many that mysteriously touch our lives every day.

That Vic Sr., your grandfather, did not choose to be an honorable man is, in no way, a reflection of you or your immediate family.  And, you should not, for one moment, feel displaced.  Rather, feel blessed young sir, for you are!

Blessings Be,

Terri</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David,</p>
<p>Please know that I believe your father knew little of his father&#8217;s past.  He and your mom lived for some time with Vic Jr. and Kaye in Arizona.  However, I doubt that the younger Vic would have shared the conflicts of the past.  Certainly your grandmother, Barbara, would neither have chosen to share such details given her involvement.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s gratifying to know that you have a fun and loving parent of whom you are proud and with whom you enjoy spending time.  Perhaps your true legacy is that the chain broke with your father.</p>
<p>In truth, your great grandfather, also known as Victor E. Lundberg, was an alcoholic&#8230;of the street variety.  This was the reason your great grandma bo didn&#8217;t stay with him.  Gawd knows how this may have affected your grandfather.  </p>
<p>Which isn&#8217;t to say that he gets a free pass for bad behavior.  Nature ~ Nurture?  In the end who really cares?  Integrity, dignity, caring, compassion, consideration, strength of character and loving without condition are choices.  </p>
<p>Intuitively or, if we allow ourselves to be guided by our intuition and soul, we do all know what it means to be an honorable person in every relationship gifted to us.  We can choose to litter our paths with human debris or we chose to take the higher road, striving always to create a warm and safe place for the people that we love as partners, companions and friends, for the children that we create of our seed, or for the many that mysteriously touch our lives every day.</p>
<p>That Vic Sr., your grandfather, did not choose to be an honorable man is, in no way, a reflection of you or your immediate family.  And, you should not, for one moment, feel displaced.  Rather, feel blessed young sir, for you are!</p>
<p>Blessings Be,</p>
<p>Terri</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember this song well! My Dad loved this song and it brought tears to his eyes! If your a Viet Nam vet like my self you can really understand the meaning of this song ! Like so many vets who were either drafted or enlisted to accept their fate really can relate to the meaning and say their proud to have served. My Father was a WWII vet and so were 3 of his brothers all were proud of their service.So inconclusion this is one song that truly represents the reason this country has remained strong! Believe in America and fight for her well being! Sometimes when your forced to participate in an action your so scared of you really dont understand till many years later ! War is terrible you become an animal and live like one, but brotherhood will with stand eternity! Last but not least PRIDE IN YOUR SELF AND YOUR COUNTRY! Keep America strong follow old beliefs and the right to bear arms and protect your country and your self!Believe in right, and God !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember this song well! My Dad loved this song and it brought tears to his eyes! If your a Viet Nam vet like my self you can really understand the meaning of this song ! Like so many vets who were either drafted or enlisted to accept their fate really can relate to the meaning and say their proud to have served. My Father was a WWII vet and so were 3 of his brothers all were proud of their service.So inconclusion this is one song that truly represents the reason this country has remained strong! Believe in America and fight for her well being! Sometimes when your forced to participate in an action your so scared of you really dont understand till many years later ! War is terrible you become an animal and live like one, but brotherhood will with stand eternity! Last but not least PRIDE IN YOUR SELF AND YOUR COUNTRY! Keep America strong follow old beliefs and the right to bear arms and protect your country and your self!Believe in right, and God !</p>
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